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Reaper195 Mar 19 2013, 10:10pm


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If I could turn back the clock a fair bit, I'd go into construction. Tauranga was pretty big for a decade or so in the construction area, but the last few years have been a bit down. Know what happened a few years ago? Christchurch earthquake. A mate of my flatmate moved down there two years ago, is living in what sounds like a backpackers with next to no luxuries, but has saved up nearly two hundred grand. That is a shit-tonne of money.

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Fish Mar 19 2013, 10:19pm


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I've long said that if you go to school for an arts degree you're wasting your time and money.


I don't think that's fair at all. Arts degrees might not be worth a lot when applying for jobs, but that doesn't mean that you don't learn anything when going to school (learning in school? Novel concept...). I can certainly say for myself that I learned a great deal, and wouldn't take back those years for anything.

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Reaper195 Mar 19 2013, 10:55pm


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I guess it depends on what you want to do with those skills. I know a woman who went to Uni down south to get an art degree. We all made fun about her working at McDonalds until we found out she took it simply to learn how to...well...how to art. For personal use. When she finished that, she went into law school and is currently trying to be a scumbag lawyer while making mad paintings on the side.

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Aglor Mar 19 2013, 11:58pm


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I've long said that if you go to school for an arts degree you're wasting your time and money.


I don't think that's fair at all. Arts degrees might not be worth a lot when applying for jobs, but that doesn't mean that you don't learn anything when going to school (learning in school? Novel concept...). I can certainly say for myself that I learned a great deal, and wouldn't take back those years for anything.


It's completely fair. I have no disrespect for art degrees as an idea (and very much would have loved to study an art!) but as a degree that costs the same as a science degree, it just doesn't make sense and is a waste. There should be art programs and colleges that are simply more affordable and, therefore, worth the time and money put in. The point of university, however, is to make yourself marketable for a job (though I completely hate that, as I love learning and education and actually went into college hoping to simply further myself in terms of education). Art degrees are not equal to science degrees, and should not be treated as such.

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Zukan Mar 20 2013, 1:52am


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I've long said that if you go to school for an arts degree you're wasting your time and money.


I don't think that's fair at all. Arts degrees might not be worth a lot when applying for jobs, but that doesn't mean that you don't learn anything when going to school (learning in school? Novel concept...). I can certainly say for myself that I learned a great deal, and wouldn't take back those years for anything.
I doubt many people would still hold that opinion 20 years down the road when they still haven't paid off that massive loan required to learn about art. My take on it? If you're just interested in a certain subject you're better off grabbing a few books on it at the library, but making an investment towards the future is what college should be all about. The goal is to turn your outcomes into incomes in the end. If that doesn't happen, I'd say one has made a bad investment. Which isn't really anyone's fault, aside from the schools, because they know this is true and keep this knowledge out of public awareness so they can screw people over with their ridiculous prices and make a lot of money.
   
 
Fish Mar 20 2013, 2:02pm


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I think I'm beginning to become of the opinion that people don't know how to abuse the scholarship/grants system.


Additionally, at least in my experience, the schools for which you will end up paying off a massive loan actually DO pretty much guarantee you a job in my area. At least, DigiPen does, which is the only major school around here I'd consider for game design.

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Mar 22 2013, 12:19am


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They won't let me have grants because of how much money my parents have. Apparently, they have too much money. This of course makes no sense seeing as how I am paying for my own college and they don't have all that much money. Certainly not enough to pay for my classes... What the moron, who decided on such a low cap for grants, was thinking I'll never know!

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grunty_thirst Mar 22 2013, 10:06am


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They won't let me have grants because of how much money my parents have. Apparently, they have too much money. This of course makes no sense seeing as how I am paying for my own college and they don't have all that much money. Certainly not enough to pay for my classes... What the moron, who decided on such a low cap for grants, was thinking I'll never know!


I love how the gov assumes we're rolling in it because Dads got a good job and all (scientist at CSIRO), but you add all the usual suspects in life and that leaves very little for all the payments a family has to afford somehow. Now I'm through Uni (my older sister having done the same), at least thats something, but as I've stated, finding a casual job is hard enough for me as it is. Centrelink payments wouldnt be enough for me to pay rent and buy you know, basic essentials such as food. Hence I'm still at home for now. A grad job would probably be enough for me to think about moving out next year, which I really want to do so I can take care of myself, and hopefully make it one (more like several) payments less to worry about for them. I hate relying on my parents for funds, as much as they tell me Im rather inexpensive overall (ie- no excess/unecessary material spending, etc).

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squattingb
Mar 23 2013, 3:57am


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grants are hard to come by, but loans are rather easy... it sucks but, the way it is.

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Zukan Mar 26 2013, 7:33am


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Anyone remembers Ecco the dolphin? I was thrilled to see that the original creators are making a new game, The Big Blue. Sooooo backing that project.
   
 
Fish Apr 1 2013, 2:48am


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I published an article today.

(Yes, I know the pictures are too small. It's not my fault )

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squattingb
Apr 2 2013, 3:07pm


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@Zukan, nice that project seems REALLY cool.

@Fish, congrats! reading now

*edit* Nice review, I agree with most of your sentiments. I think it's a bit odd that you ended the article on a 'con' and gave it such a good score.

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Fish Apr 2 2013, 5:18pm


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That's a good point... well, whatever. I had to say something bad about it >.>

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Disease Apr 2 2013, 10:09pm


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Ahh. I need to replay FTL soon. I just wish it had more missions and content. It got just a tad repetitive (especially mission wise) replaying after the 5th time.

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spartan117 Apr 4 2013, 7:37pm


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That's a good point... well, whatever. I had to say something bad about it >.>


I recommend you try out the Infinite Space mod for FTL. It removes the core story of the game, adds in a bunch of new weapons and random events, and gives you absolute freedom to roam the universe to your heart's content.

It's also considerably more difficult when compared to the vanilla game.

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Nick Apr 6 2013, 11:01am


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Disease Apr 8 2013, 1:45am


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How's that cryo-burn?

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The Muffin King Apr 8 2013, 5:23am


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I have risen from my watery grave to...uhh...yeah, whatever.

It's nice to see most of you still alive here. So nostalgic.

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Reaper195 Apr 8 2013, 6:02am


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*Power slides into room accompanied by a blast of confetti and breif heavy riff from an unseen guitar*

...word.

Still jobless, bored as all christ. My brother dropped by a few days ago and threw me a copy of Tomb Raider. Was so stoked, it was awesome. Need to get him beers somehow.

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spartan117 Apr 8 2013, 9:01am


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I thoroughly enjoyed the new Tomb Raider, even if it was Press X to Jason.

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