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Aglor Nov 3 2012, 12:52am


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Mine as well (for President anyway; Obama carried our state last time, but that was a fluke).

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Reaper195 Nov 3 2012, 1:50am


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@Aglor: I was listening to a Rooster Teeth podcast a while ago and found out that about or less than fifty percent of Americans voted in the last elections. How the fuck does that even happen? How do so many people not give enough of a shit who runs their country not to vote? The is disgusting! We had the lowest turnout last election in NZ, and only eighty five percent of people voted.

I just fail to see how such a low voting rate is remotely possible for a country that affects a large portion of the world, irrelevant of what they think.

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The Muffin King Nov 3 2012, 5:42am


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I for one see myself as part of that problem. I have this mindset that since I am unsure about my knowledge of general political issues and where our candidates stand, I feel like I am ill qualified to exercise my right to vote and to take part in a democratic society. I have a suspicion that it is this notion that may be keeping citizens such as myself from taking part in elections and take it for granted.

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Trance Nov 3 2012, 9:41am


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We're definitely going to have a low turnout this election year; there are no more hopefuls behind Obama anymore. I loathe being forced into a choice between two candidates I'd rather not see in office, voting to keep the worse one out rather than voting to put one I like in.

It's not the lack of legislative reform I'm concerned with, since I know the President is in the wrong branch to do anything proactive there. (Not sure why so many people think a failure of a bill to pass or be presented to Congress is the President's fault.) It's the fact that he's settled so quickly and thoroughly into Bush's foreign policy rut. It's still part of the game plan to extradite people that embarrass our government and make them disappear, Guantanamo's still open for business, drone strikes are on the rise, and there are no indications on the horizon of us pulling out of Afghanistan.

None of which I expect Romney to see differently on, either, and he's got some other bad ideas besides. Maybe if Obama is reelected and he no longer has to worry about the next election cycle he'll actually grow a pair and start leaving a legacy, but I'm not holding out hope for that. He can wish, hope and pray all he wants but for some real change to happen he HAS to go through Congress first, and that is where the real trouble is located.

I'd much rather vote in a system similar to the parliamentary elections of the UK and Canada, where third parties get at least some representation in government. I'm sick of this lack of choice.
   
 
Aglor Nov 3 2012, 11:32am


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Honestly, I'd vote for Jill Stein of the Green Party if she had even the slightest chance of winning. She doesn't, so I pick Obama.

That said, I'm incredibly disappointed by Obama. Democrats promised me hope and change I could believe in. Republicans promised me a socialist. I got neither of those and I wanted both.

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squattingb
Nov 3 2012, 12:02pm


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A good article listing the reasons why Canadian's pay attention to the US elections: here

Voter turnout is always an issue in NA, both Canada and the US. I believe the last Canadian federal election had around 40% voter turnout. Fact is that Canadian politics is boring and unchanged. While the Americans may wish for a significant third party, I am fed up with ours. For the past 10 years it's been all about minority governments and forming alliances and the breaking of those alliances. Nothing gets done, accusations are thrown around and then they prorogue the government making the worst excuses. It's a joke here!

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Trumpetman09
Nov 3 2012, 1:19pm


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There's a great quote in the comments that I feel is completely appropriate:

"Geography has made us neighbors. History has made us friends. Economics has made us partners. And necessity has made us allies. Those whom nature hath so joined together, let no man put asunder. What unites us is far greater than what divides us."
-John F. Kennedy

I do love Canada, it's like, pardon the way that I put this, but like a different kind of US...but not really US...it just reminds me a lot of the US, without being the US. Does that make any sense? When I traveled there a couple years ago I felt very much at home like I do here, it's just a really nice country both the people, the laws, the land itself, etc. That was a good article, it's right, the US president needs to remember that our neighbor to the north should be our ally.

On the issue of voter turn out, I feel like the problem is part what The Muffin King said, part that people don't care, and part that people have given up. So many people have this weird tunnel vision that they ignore everything else except for themselves. This is only to the people who don't care, not to the people who The Muffin King was talking about.

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Trance Nov 3 2012, 8:34pm


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This is a surprise. Someone linked me this earlier:

ISideWith.com

You take a survey which asks you if the government should/shouldn't be acting a certain way in response to specific national issues, in addition to recording how important these specific issues are to you, then compares your ideas with those touted by the candidates currently running for President (as well as the major parties and a few other statistics).

And apparently my best match is Gary Johnson, the Libertarian candidate, at 84%. Jill Stein is second at 80%, but Obama is third on the list at 78%.

Not sure if that means I should be calling myself Libertarian, though, because in the party matchup, it's a 92% match with the Democrats and only 60% for Libertarians. Still, definitely wasn't expecting that result.
   
 
Trumpetman09
Nov 3 2012, 11:22pm


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Dude, I love that site! It's actually really well made, which is surprising. It tells me that I am more libertarian because of my right leaning views on some fiscal policies and my left lean on social. Although it's really more of a mix bag for me as far as fiscal and even social policy goes. I like Johnson, I think he's very smart, but I can't agree with a lot of his domestic policies specifically education. Education really shouldn't be left up to the states, because in my state we would be teach creationism if that were the case. Why is it that so many people here in the US can't just accept Evolution? I see no reason, in fact, I see it as a compliment to those more religiously inclined. Ugh.

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Trance Nov 4 2012, 3:21am


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Creationists have done a very good job in recent years to present a false dichotomy to the Christian world in order to further their cause. They've convinced a lot of reasonable people that evolution equals atheism. Unfortunately it's quite hard to undo that kind of intellectual damage once it's done.
   
 
Trance Nov 6 2012, 11:23am


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Well this is it, folks. At least one good thing that'll happen at the end of today will be that the political robo-calls will stop for another four years.

If you haven't voted, get off your lazy keister and go do it.
   
 
Aglor Nov 6 2012, 3:48pm


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Voted this morning! Yay!

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Trumpetman09
Nov 6 2012, 11:23pm


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Well Obama just won. Couldn't care less, not like much was going to happen with either one of the two anyhow. Now we have a continued divided congress as well. I was actually thinking that it wouldn't be divided again. I was for sure that the Democrats would pull of a victory in the House. Oh what fun...nothing is going to be allowed to be done!!!... :|

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The Muffin King Nov 7 2012, 2:22am


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I want to say that that is where we're all getting screwed. It seems like many things that could help us are stuck in limbo because no one can agree on anything. We need to get our heads out of our asses and realize we're all stuck on this sinking boat so why not help each other out before we drown?

Of course, I really have no idea what exactly these things caught in limbo are or what they could do. This is just my uneducated take on the subject.

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Trance Nov 7 2012, 8:57am


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If people would stop devoting the entirety of their attention to the Presidency and spent more time researching their Congressional candidates we might not have this problem. When you put ideologues in control of the legislature, you won't get anything but gridlock out of it.
   
 
Trumpetman09
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I think that the most forgotten vote last night was the vote that Puerto Rico just took. One they just ousted their Governor and two they just voted that they want Statehood. Now we'll see if the Republicans and Democrats fulfill their promises to go with whatever Puerto Rico wanted. The biggest issue I can see now is that people would have to buy new flags.

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Trance Nov 7 2012, 3:05pm


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WHERE ARE THEY GOING TO FIT THAT 51st STAR
   
 
The Muffin King Nov 7 2012, 5:28pm


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We'll start doubling up on the stars

Curious, what did the flag look like before Hawaii was annexed? 7 lines of 7 stars?

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Trumpetman09
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We'll start doubling up on the stars

Curious, what did the flag look like before Hawaii was annexed? 7 lines of 7 stars?


Here you go:

But you know what they should do to keep it even? Make Washington DC a state.

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